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View Poll Results: Who should fold?
AK folds to raise? 1 8.33%
A4 (flush draw) folds to re-raise? 2 16.67%
Both players did OK. 8 66.67%
Both are idiots and should close all accounts and just send me thier money. 1 8.33%
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Old 01-30-2008, 08:11 PM
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I have posted this at a couple of forums I have gotten a lot of different opinions and thought I would try it here.


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We are about midway of a $500 freeroll at Bodog, average stack about 8,000
I have 16,000 my opponent has about 12,000
I got A 4 of Hearts I bet 1500 he calls.
Flop: Ac Jh 6h
I bet 2500 he goes allin and I call
He shows As Kc
The turn is no help to either of us.
The river is a 4 of something but anyway I catch my second pair on the river.
He starts screaming about, how that I am a "terrible player" and calls me all kinds of animal names. Says I don't understand the game and I should look at the cards and see that I can't beat anything then fold because he went all in. I think he should have folded to the 2500 bet, Hell I could have had AJ just as easy as a flush draw and at that point all he had was a pair of As, just like me, except of course I have 9 outs just on the flush. This guy chases me to the next table still continuing with this mouth assault.

Well he got his wish I was put out in 82nd place in a field of 3404. After 2-1/2hours of play (the payout started at 63 that sucked)

He says it was a DONK move to call his Allin and I say it was just a bet that paid off. What do you say????

I don't thimk it makes me a superior player or smarter than anybody, it was just a "bet" and I won. Why do some guys go nuts when they lose! If you can't afford to lose the chips don't push'em in the pot.
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Old 01-30-2008, 08:23 PM
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he had top pair with the best kicker you could have
you had top pair with the nut flush draw but caught a different out
i'd say that you both did ok, he was just a cry baby little bitch
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Old 01-30-2008, 08:23 PM
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No if anyone should of folded here it was you, but neither player should fold especially in a freeroll unless its on the bubble or some money earning situation. You had to know you were behind with only an ace with a weak kicker I fail to see where you think he should fold, if he has you on a flush draw he still figures to win 3 out of 4, so he made correct play you made a call that is pretty tough not to make, especially online, however his insult was out of line because I am pretty sure he would of made the same call.
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he had top pair with the best kicker you could have
you had top pair with the nut flush draw but caught a different out
i'd say that you both did ok, he was just a cry baby little bitch
well said
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After your bet on the flop you had 25% of your chips in the pot already with top pair and a flush draw. There is no way he is folding and in a freeroll, I am making that call too even if I know 100% I am behind. I have 12 outs to win that hand unless he has a set then I have 9. Still calling. Is it a bad beat? Yes, because he got it all in good, but that's poker.
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If I'm holding AK and A comes on the flop I'm usually not going to fold this hand. I probably would have just called your reraise and push on river. If I lose I lose. I might be upset at myself for not having pushed preflop, but I'm not going to be mad at you for catching on the river.

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I have posted this at a couple of forums I have gotten a lot of different opinions and thought I would try it here.


Short version of this hand.
We are about midway of a $500 freeroll at Bodog, average stack about 8,000
I have 16,000 my opponent has about 12,000
I got A 4 of Hearts I bet 1500 he calls.
Flop: Ac Jh 6h
I bet 2500 he goes allin and I call
He shows As Kc
The turn is no help to either of us.
The river is a 4 of something but anyway I catch my second pair on the river.
He starts screaming about, how that I am a "terrible player" and calls me all kinds of animal names. Says I don't understand the game and I should look at the cards and see that I can't beat anything then fold because he went all in. I think he should have folded to the 2500 bet, Hell I could have had AJ just as easy as a flush draw and at that point all he had was a pair of As, just like me, except of course I have 9 outs just on the flush. This guy chases me to the next table still continuing with this mouth assault.

Well he got his wish I was put out in 82nd place in a field of 3404. After 2-1/2hours of play (the payout started at 63 that sucked)

He says it was a DONK move to call his Allin and I say it was just a bet that paid off. What do you say????

I don't thimk it makes me a superior player or smarter than anybody, it was just a "bet" and I won. Why do some guys go nuts when they lose! If you can't afford to lose the chips don't push'em in the pot.

Well he was mad because he lost, and the cards were with you congrat's on your bet and hopfully it was a win.
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he probably should've re-raised preflop with AK to see if you were really holding some cards. But anyway, good on you. You hit, he didn't. Thats the game isn't it? Its a free roll, he shouldn't go off like that. I agree with Iron, he seems like a little bit of a bi-atch.
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he probably should've re-raised preflop with AK to see if you were really holding some cards. But anyway, good on you. You hit, he didn't. Thats the game isn't it? Its a free roll, he shouldn't go off like that. I agree with Iron, he seems like a little bit of a bi-atch.
Absolutely agree, when he didnt raise preflop, he opened himself up to be outdrawn and possibly outplayed.
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Next time you see him tell him he a biotch and no charge will reraise his ass with 7-2 off lol
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